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I think you will be surprised by the amount Montreal will get and that will be close to 30 cm Shawn. I dont think 20 cm will be enough

montreal-est nuageux -14.6c 8:06am montreal -east cloudy -14.6c 8:06am radar...

How much inches of snow would it mean for Montreal ? Combien de pouces de neige ça voudrait dire pour Montreal ? Im still sticking with 30 cms the reason with this is that once the coastal system tracks near the Bay of Fundy. There will be a return of moisture running along the St. Lawrence from the system and that will give us a 10cm on top of the 20cm from sunday.

More global warming !!! over 1500 records broken !!! http://iceagenow.com/Record_Lows_2008.htm

Where is global warming ???? Severe Cold Wave to Hit Europe By Joe Bastardi, Senior Meterologist at accuweather.com ______________________________  19 Dec 08 (Excerpts) The development of a major blocking high pressure system over the north Atlantic and its subsequent backing west is about to throw most of Europe into the coldest winter weather pattern in many a year Temps over the next month or so are liable to average 6-10 degrees F below normal over the center part of the continentIntuitive with this is the likelihood of more than normal snow and ice I wish to point out, with no malice intended, that the two countries with major scientific organizations pushing the global warming idea, Britain and the UKMET and the US with NOAA have been burned by the cold that has developed here. NOAA had a December forecast for a warm central US for November that they were forced to revise and the UKMET forecast for a rather bland winter for Europe speaks for itself. Its anything but bland. If an enemy is vanquished, it should not be able to launch attacks of this magnitude. See entire article: http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-e...ner=accuweather

NOAA JUST BOOSTED THERE SNOW TOTALS UP BY 3 INCHES.

Well it looks like 30 cm of snow for the Montreal area. Models now lowering heights and very deep low pressure will form and head for the Bay of fundy by early monday morning . This type of track is the one that gives the most snow for southern Quebec.

It looks like global warming was on earth since humans walked the planet. Co2 does have a effect on the earths temp but to what level is the question Frankly in 30 years from now maybe we will be dealing with global cooling !!! Thats what happened in the 1970s and 1910s then the 1930s came along and it was global warming. Please make up your mind is it warming or cooling, well what ever the answer is nature will always balance itself. Humans started causing global warming 5,000 years ago, UW study says By Lee Bergquist of the Journal Sentinel Posted: Dec. 17, 2008 Global warming didn't start with the industrial revolution, but began 5,000 to 8,000 years ago with large-scale agriculture in Asia and extensive deforestation in Europe, according to new research by University of Wisconsin-Madison scientists. Using powerful supercomputers and advanced climate models, the researchers concluded that methane and carbon dioxide - the building blocks of global warming - began rising with the introduction of rice cultivation and large-scale tree removal. "I think that the take-home message is that this hypothesis shows that climates are extremely sensitive to small variations in greenhouse gases," said Steve Vavrus, a climatologist at UW's Center for Climatic Research. Vavrus and his colleagues John Kutzbach and Gwenäelle Philippon were to discuss their research today at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. The work of the UW team also shows that the build-up of greenhouse gases over thousands of years has prevented the start of a new glacial age. Ice ages have occurred at regular 100,000-year intervals over the last 1 million years, they said, mirroring predictable changes in the orbit of the Earth, known as Milankovitch cycles. Had the man-made gases not been emitted into the atmosphere, portions of the arctic and some mountainous regions would contain more permanent snow and ice than they do today, Vavrus said. The researchers used data from other scientists who have been measuring oxygen and other gases trapped in ice core samples from Antarctica that are 850,000 years old. The air samples from 5,000 to 8,000 years ago contained unmistakable levels of methane and carbon dioxide gases. Methane levels rose from decomposing vegetation in terraced rice paddies, Vavrus said. The rising levels of carbon dioxide came from deforestation known to have taken place in Europe. Three different climate models were used. The researchers removed the amount of greenhouse gases that humans sent into the atmosphere, based on the ice core samples. The models show more permanent snow and ice cover in Canada, Siberia, Greenland and the Rocky Mountains. Vavrus said the research supports theories first put forward by William F. Ruddiman, a paleoclimatologist at the University of Virginia.

Joyeux Noël et Bonne Année à tout le monde! Happy holidays and a Happy New Year to all!

THE AMOUNTS SHOWN ABOVE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO BE REACHED.COASTL LOW TAKES OVER FULLY AND LIFTS INTO THE MARITIMES. THIS WILL SET UP THE SECOND PORTION OF SNOWFALL ACCUM AS NORTHERLY WINDS SET UP RIGHT INTO MONDAY. ADDITIONAL ACCUM OF 8 TO 15 CM POSSIBLE BFR PRECIP TAPERS OFF BY MON AFTNOON. WE SHOULD REACH 30 CM BY MONDAY AFTERNOON.

The latest computer models show this next potent storm will give Montreal anywhere from 25cm to 35 cm of snow. Northern New York is expecting anywhere from 12 to 18 inches . From NOAA for Northern New York region statment... ...WIDESPREAD MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOWFALL EXPECTED. DUE TO CURRENT WINTER WEATHER HEADLINES IN PLACE...HAVE OPTED TO FOREGO ISSUANCE OF ADDL HEADLINES FOR THIS EVENT TO MINIMIZE CONFUSION. HOWEVER...WATCHES AND/OR WARNING WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED ON SATURDAY...ESP GIVEN SUCH HIGH CONFIDENCE IN OVERALL PATTERN.-- End Changed Discussion --

It looks like the snow band is along the US/Canadain border nothing much to worry about.

Et puis? tyrone fait pas ton smat !! tas phrase a rien avec le sujet !!!

AND NOW THE OPPOSITE... It's already known that the earth naturally has its cycles, and that it does warm up and cool down. It also naturally produces CO2. Global warming is the rapid heating of the climate due to HEAVY amounts of CO2 and other pollutants humans and their technology have released into the air, keeping the sunlight we receive from bouncing back out of our atmosphere. The world may naturally and gradually warm on its own, but now it's dealing with levels of pollution and CO2 never seen before. From our cars to our factories, it's reached an unprecedented level. We're drastically speeding up the process and taking it to an extreme never seen before. Global Warming exists. It's been scientifically proven. Study after study, test after test...the result can be proven. It's not theory. None of you think the pollution we put in the air is at all harmful? Have none of you thought of the fact that it gets caught in out atmosphere and our clouds, tainting the rain water? Or the junk we pour down our sinks, put on our lawn, or let wash down the gutters sinks down into the water table? The planet's never had to deal with this stuff gunking up its natural system, and people are ignorant enough to think it has NO effect on how the Earth's climate behaves or the environment reacts? Think of the planet as a human body. The crap we're loading it with? Cocaine, heavy amounts of alcohol, and other hazardous substances. Have that act as the pollution. Just like those substances mess with our bodies, our pollution messes with the earth. You could even take it literally. If you swallowed some antifreeze, you wouldn't feel too great, would you? Neither does the planet. From deforestation to filling in lakes, we have messed with its natural system and its ability to balance itself. We've made the planet sick. The damage we've done...the millions of years' worth of things the earth has built that we've destroyed in as small a time span as just hundred years...is astounding! The planet can bounce back and get better. It's just whether or not we wish to still be living on this planet when it does that's our choice.

Artical??????? The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. It was written in 1922!!!!! What happened???? Did the Ice Come back???? Wow weather happens!!!!! The things we are doing are not causing the change. The Al Gores of the world have to make some money off you poor stupid folks. So they need something to scare you with. The problem with the Y2K thing they tried was It Had an END Date 1/1/2000. They are getting smarter and they can keep this pile of BS going on forever or untill all the Ice melts and we drown. This topic was written to the Washington Post on global warming..

Voici 2 liens qui parle de la réchauffement de la planète et le refroidissement de la planète . http://icecap.us/index.php http://iceagenow.com/ Here are 2 sites that talk about global warming and global cooling .

ECMWF model at 4 days places low pressure near New Hampshire/ Maine border this type of track places montreal on snowfall anywhere from 20 to 30 cm. Adjustments could be made but model has shown consistency the past few runs.

BONJOUR JEAN Voici les lien pour ca !! http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/...onth=12&Day=17& http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/...canada_f.html?& BONNE JOURNEE !!

Briant to me you are not GOD so dont tell me that you are 100 % correct on your co2 opinion, and of course im not 100 % correct too.Since you and regg are the smart ones here in this forum you must have the answer to save the planet.I want to hear it thanks merci...

En gros, oublions les chiffres et tout car plusieurs études montrent différents résultats. Le CO2 est le résultat du réchauffement et non la cause. Pourquoi alors qu'entre 1940 et 1976, et ce meme avec des émissions de CO2 à la hausse causé par l'humain, on observa une baisse de la température de la terre. Le soleil est responsable de tout depuis le début, le reste en est le résultat. On ne va me faire croire que la race humaine est menacée par un réchauffement minime, ca n'a aucun sens. Si on regarde l'histoire de la température de la terre, nous sommes encore dans une période de températures plus froides. Il a déja fait 25c de moyenne, et la moyenne durant les dernieres 2 milliards d'années est de 17c. Le cycle est très évident, l'humain devra etre capable de surmonter le réchauffement climatique que l'on connait présentement (peu importe par quel moyen il utilisera). L'affaire avec le réchauffement climatique ( et le baton de hockey) c'est que les données ne sont pas calculées sur des millions d'années mais des centaines. On regarde juste au bout de notre nez et meme pas avec du recul. Les graphiques présentés pour appuyer le man made réchauffement sont sur 100 ou 1000 ans, alors les courbes peuvent paraitre plus prononcées mais si on fait un graphiques sur 100 000 ans, on verra que ce n'est plus le cas. Nous sommes encore sous l'influence d'une période suivant une ère glacière, alors pas du tout dans la période la plus chaude de l'histoire de la terre. La terre va se réchauffer encore une fois, il faut juste s'adapter avant qu'il ne soit trop tard. http://www.scotese.com/images/globaltemp.jpg I agree 100 % with you. We are just in the last stages of the last ice age and this co2 causing global warming is not the culprit. I truly belive the sun has a influence on the earth and just the same on the other planets in our solar system. http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/12/glo...-computers.html

A.Theunissen what happened to your post ??? It was very interesting on CO2.

I found this article on the global warming or should i say global cooling. It looks to me that the earth is cooling down since 1998 and of course people will say that the ice sheets are melting,very true of course but what about the earths natural weather cycles we must learn more about them before we jump to conclusions and say that the earth is warming up. But i still think we should cut back co2 levels for a cleaner enviroment for the generations to come but dont come out saying that the global warming pundits are 100 % right. here are the links Voici les lien http://www.investors.com/editorial/editori...314237030606167 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122937766062908297.html

montreal-est Faible bruine verglaçante -0.3c 10:15pm montreal-east Light Freezing drizzle -0.3c 10:15pm

montreal-est neige -1.3c 7:42pm montreal-east snow -1.3c 7:42pm

.LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...NOAA AS OF 507 AM EST SUNDAY...DESPITE MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES MEDIUM RANGE SOLNS STILL ONBOARD SHOWING AN ACTIVE WX PATTERN IN STORE FOR NEXT WEEK. SEVERAL SYSTEMS PROGGED TO RACE EASTWARD ALONG THE E-W ORIENTED POLAR FRONT IN MEAN ZONAL FLOW ACROSS THE LOWER 48. THIS PATTERN IS EERILY SIMILAR TO WHAT OCCURRED MUCH OF LAST WINTER...WITH QUICK-MOVING SYSTEMS OF MIDWESTERN/OHIO VALLEY ORIGINS FREQUENTLY AFFECTING THE NORTHEAST. FIRST OF THESE SYSTEMS TO AFFECT OUR AREA BY TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY WITH WIDESPREAD LIGHT/MODERATE PCPN. FAVORABLE UPPER SUPPORT/DYNAMICS AND MEAN TRACK OF SFC LOW SHOULD ALLOW MOST OF THIS TO FALL IN THE FORM OF LIGHT SNOWS AND WILL MAINTAIN INHERITED FCSTS IDEA OF LIKELY POPS. THEREAFTER...A BRIEF RESPITE BY WED NT INTO THURSDAY AS WEAK HIGH PRESSURE BRIDGES ACROSS THE AREA. THEN ADDL ENERGY PUSHES QUICKLY EAST BY THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. SOME TIMING DIFFERENCES NOTED WITH THIS SECOND FEATURE...WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING GIVEN FAST UPPER WESTERLY FLOW. NONETHELESS...WILL LEAN MORE CLOSELY TO THIS MORNINGS SLIGHTLY SLOWER EUROPEAN SOLN...WHICH HAS BROADER SUPPORT AMONGST AVBL ENSEMBLE MEMBERS THAN DOES ITS GFS COUNTERPART. So after low pressure moves by us, the chances of seeing solid liquid for the remainder of the week looks very good for the Montreal area as the polar front moves somewhat south of our region.