iceberg

It looks like the snow band is along the US/Canadain border nothing much to worry about.

Et puis? tyrone fait pas ton smat !! tas phrase a rien avec le sujet !!!

AND NOW THE OPPOSITE... It's already known that the earth naturally has its cycles, and that it does warm up and cool down. It also naturally produces CO2. Global warming is the rapid heating of the climate due to HEAVY amounts of CO2 and other pollutants humans and their technology have released into the air, keeping the sunlight we receive from bouncing back out of our atmosphere. The world may naturally and gradually warm on its own, but now it's dealing with levels of pollution and CO2 never seen before. From our cars to our factories, it's reached an unprecedented level. We're drastically speeding up the process and taking it to an extreme never seen before. Global Warming exists. It's been scientifically proven. Study after study, test after test...the result can be proven. It's not theory. None of you think the pollution we put in the air is at all harmful? Have none of you thought of the fact that it gets caught in out atmosphere and our clouds, tainting the rain water? Or the junk we pour down our sinks, put on our lawn, or let wash down the gutters sinks down into the water table? The planet's never had to deal with this stuff gunking up its natural system, and people are ignorant enough to think it has NO effect on how the Earth's climate behaves or the environment reacts? Think of the planet as a human body. The crap we're loading it with? Cocaine, heavy amounts of alcohol, and other hazardous substances. Have that act as the pollution. Just like those substances mess with our bodies, our pollution messes with the earth. You could even take it literally. If you swallowed some antifreeze, you wouldn't feel too great, would you? Neither does the planet. From deforestation to filling in lakes, we have messed with its natural system and its ability to balance itself. We've made the planet sick. The damage we've done...the millions of years' worth of things the earth has built that we've destroyed in as small a time span as just hundred years...is astounding! The planet can bounce back and get better. It's just whether or not we wish to still be living on this planet when it does that's our choice.

Artical??????? The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. It was written in 1922!!!!! What happened???? Did the Ice Come back???? Wow weather happens!!!!! The things we are doing are not causing the change. The Al Gores of the world have to make some money off you poor stupid folks. So they need something to scare you with. The problem with the Y2K thing they tried was It Had an END Date 1/1/2000. They are getting smarter and they can keep this pile of BS going on forever or untill all the Ice melts and we drown. This topic was written to the Washington Post on global warming..

Voici 2 liens qui parle de la réchauffement de la planète et le refroidissement de la planète . http://icecap.us/index.php http://iceagenow.com/ Here are 2 sites that talk about global warming and global cooling .

ECMWF model at 4 days places low pressure near New Hampshire/ Maine border this type of track places montreal on snowfall anywhere from 20 to 30 cm. Adjustments could be made but model has shown consistency the past few runs.

BONJOUR JEAN Voici les lien pour ca !! http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/...onth=12&Day=17& http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/...canada_f.html?& BONNE JOURNEE !!

Briant to me you are not GOD so dont tell me that you are 100 % correct on your co2 opinion, and of course im not 100 % correct too.Since you and regg are the smart ones here in this forum you must have the answer to save the planet.I want to hear it thanks merci...

En gros, oublions les chiffres et tout car plusieurs études montrent différents résultats. Le CO2 est le résultat du réchauffement et non la cause. Pourquoi alors qu'entre 1940 et 1976, et ce meme avec des émissions de CO2 à la hausse causé par l'humain, on observa une baisse de la température de la terre. Le soleil est responsable de tout depuis le début, le reste en est le résultat. On ne va me faire croire que la race humaine est menacée par un réchauffement minime, ca n'a aucun sens. Si on regarde l'histoire de la température de la terre, nous sommes encore dans une période de températures plus froides. Il a déja fait 25c de moyenne, et la moyenne durant les dernieres 2 milliards d'années est de 17c. Le cycle est très évident, l'humain devra etre capable de surmonter le réchauffement climatique que l'on connait présentement (peu importe par quel moyen il utilisera). L'affaire avec le réchauffement climatique ( et le baton de hockey) c'est que les données ne sont pas calculées sur des millions d'années mais des centaines. On regarde juste au bout de notre nez et meme pas avec du recul. Les graphiques présentés pour appuyer le man made réchauffement sont sur 100 ou 1000 ans, alors les courbes peuvent paraitre plus prononcées mais si on fait un graphiques sur 100 000 ans, on verra que ce n'est plus le cas. Nous sommes encore sous l'influence d'une période suivant une ère glacière, alors pas du tout dans la période la plus chaude de l'histoire de la terre. La terre va se réchauffer encore une fois, il faut juste s'adapter avant qu'il ne soit trop tard. http://www.scotese.com/images/globaltemp.jpg I agree 100 % with you. We are just in the last stages of the last ice age and this co2 causing global warming is not the culprit. I truly belive the sun has a influence on the earth and just the same on the other planets in our solar system. http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/12/glo...-computers.html

A.Theunissen what happened to your post ??? It was very interesting on CO2.

I found this article on the global warming or should i say global cooling. It looks to me that the earth is cooling down since 1998 and of course people will say that the ice sheets are melting,very true of course but what about the earths natural weather cycles we must learn more about them before we jump to conclusions and say that the earth is warming up. But i still think we should cut back co2 levels for a cleaner enviroment for the generations to come but dont come out saying that the global warming pundits are 100 % right. here are the links Voici les lien http://www.investors.com/editorial/editori...314237030606167 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122937766062908297.html

montreal-est Faible bruine verglaçante -0.3c 10:15pm montreal-east Light Freezing drizzle -0.3c 10:15pm

montreal-est neige -1.3c 7:42pm montreal-east snow -1.3c 7:42pm

.LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...NOAA AS OF 507 AM EST SUNDAY...DESPITE MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES MEDIUM RANGE SOLNS STILL ONBOARD SHOWING AN ACTIVE WX PATTERN IN STORE FOR NEXT WEEK. SEVERAL SYSTEMS PROGGED TO RACE EASTWARD ALONG THE E-W ORIENTED POLAR FRONT IN MEAN ZONAL FLOW ACROSS THE LOWER 48. THIS PATTERN IS EERILY SIMILAR TO WHAT OCCURRED MUCH OF LAST WINTER...WITH QUICK-MOVING SYSTEMS OF MIDWESTERN/OHIO VALLEY ORIGINS FREQUENTLY AFFECTING THE NORTHEAST. FIRST OF THESE SYSTEMS TO AFFECT OUR AREA BY TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY WITH WIDESPREAD LIGHT/MODERATE PCPN. FAVORABLE UPPER SUPPORT/DYNAMICS AND MEAN TRACK OF SFC LOW SHOULD ALLOW MOST OF THIS TO FALL IN THE FORM OF LIGHT SNOWS AND WILL MAINTAIN INHERITED FCSTS IDEA OF LIKELY POPS. THEREAFTER...A BRIEF RESPITE BY WED NT INTO THURSDAY AS WEAK HIGH PRESSURE BRIDGES ACROSS THE AREA. THEN ADDL ENERGY PUSHES QUICKLY EAST BY THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. SOME TIMING DIFFERENCES NOTED WITH THIS SECOND FEATURE...WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING GIVEN FAST UPPER WESTERLY FLOW. NONETHELESS...WILL LEAN MORE CLOSELY TO THIS MORNINGS SLIGHTLY SLOWER EUROPEAN SOLN...WHICH HAS BROADER SUPPORT AMONGST AVBL ENSEMBLE MEMBERS THAN DOES ITS GFS COUNTERPART. So after low pressure moves by us, the chances of seeing solid liquid for the remainder of the week looks very good for the Montreal area as the polar front moves somewhat south of our region.

Enviroment Canada or Noaa when they issue a seasonal forcast they do not change it before the next season starts 90 days apart.

PAS DE EL NINO CETTE HIVER !!!! Temps will still be in normal mode in the pacific basin by November and below normal by january. Winters of this calibre bring extreme temp swings for southern Quebec. If i would take a guess this winter it would be like the winter of 2002-03 for temps only and for precip normal to above normal towards the end of winter. This post has been edited by iceberg on August 15, 2008 01:48 am I made this forcast in August 2008.

OK, donne-moi ta facon de faire pour une prévision comme celle-là? Je ne dis pas qu'elle est mauvaise, mais explique comment t'as pu arriver avec une telle solution. Pour le début de l'hiver on pense la meme chose, mais c'est en février que nos 2 prévisions se différencient. Je veux juste savoir ta démarche. Ma prévision Fin décembre au 15-25 février = plus chaud que la normale Fin février à fin mars = plus froid que la normal Pour les précipitations, tout dépend du storm track, mais si on voit arriver un s-e ridge puissant, on risque d'etre sous les normale précip. durant ce temps A.Theunissen tell me why you have changed your forcast now that Feburary and March will be colder. Thats what i forcasted in November . Try to stick with one forcast and not change from day to day. MODÉRATION: ON GARDE LE RESPECT DES AUTRES SVP.

Winter Storm Watch URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT 916 PM EST WED DEC 10 2008 ...POTENTIAL WINTER STORM TO IMPACT THE NORTH COUNTRY THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON... .AN INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES WILL MOVE UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY AND ENHANCE THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY PRECIPITATION ACROSS MUCH OF THE NORTH COUNTRY. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD BE HEAVIEST THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND FALL MAINLY IN THE FORM OF SNOW...BUT MAY MIX WITH SLEET OR FREEZING RAIN ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL VERMONT. PERSONS ACROSS MUCH OF THE NORTH COUNTRY SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS SYSTEM AS IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT TRAVEL. NYZ028>031-034-035-VTZ001>012-016>019-111100- /O.CON.KBTV.WS.A.0010.081211T1800Z-081212T1800Z/ EASTERN CLINTON-SOUTHEASTERN ST. LAWRENCE-SOUTHERN FRANKLIN- WESTERN CLINTON-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-GRAND ISLE- WESTERN FRANKLIN-ORLEANS-ESSEX-WESTERN CHITTENDEN-LAMOILLE- CALEDONIA-WASHINGTON-WESTERN ADDISON-ORANGE-WESTERN RUTLAND- WINDSOR-EASTERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CHITTENDEN-EASTERN ADDISON- EASTERN RUTLAND- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...PLATTSBURGH...STAR LAKE... SARANAC LAKE...TUPPER LAKE...DANNEMORA...LAKE PLACID... PORT HENRY...TICONDEROGA...ALBURGH...SOUTH HERO...ST. ALBANS... NEWPORT...ISLAND POND...BURLINGTON...JOHNSON...STOWE... ST. JOHNSBURY...MONTPELIER...MIDDLEBURY...VERGENNES...BRADFORD... RANDOLPH...RUTLAND...SPRINGFIELD...WHITE RIVER JUNCTION... ENOSBURG FALLS...RICHFORD...UNDERHILL...BRISTOL...RIPTON... EAST WALLINGFORD...KILLINGTON 916 PM EST WED DEC 10 2008 ...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON CONTINUES THE WINTER STORM WATCH FOR POTENTIALLY HEAVY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS MUCH OF THE NORTH COUNTRY...FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THE POTENTIAL FOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 OR MORE INCHES WILL EXIST ACROSS THE NORTHERN ADIRONDACKS OF NEW YORK...THE ENTIRE CHAMPLAIN VALLEY...AND THE REMAINDER OF VERMONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ACCUMULATIONS OF SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL VERMONT. SNOW IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND SPREAD FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS THE REGION. THE SNOW MAY BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. IN ADDITION...SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN MAY MIX IN WITH THE SNOW ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL VERMONT LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO END FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS ON FRIDAY. A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS AND PRODUCTS FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO KEEP YOU INFORMED DURING POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS WEATHER SITUATIONS. Forcast totals for this storm for Montreal i would say 15 to 20 cm tops. I really dont like to forcast storm totals but this is what i think will happen.

montreal-est Granules de glace -7.3c 10:09 pm montreal-east ice pellets -7.3c 10:09 pm http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/...cation=USVT0147

Montreal-Est Neige avec Grésil mêlé de Pluie Verglaçante -8.2c 9:04 pm Montreal -East Snow mixed with Ice Pellets and Freezing Rain -8.2c 9:04 pm http://www.accuweather.com/enhanced-radar....ther&traveler=0 http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/...cation=USVT0147

Montreal-Est Neige avec Grésil mêlé de Pluie Verglaçante -8.7c 8:53 pm Montreal -East Snow mixed with Ice Pellets and Freezing Rain -8.7c 8:53 pm http://www.accuweather.com/enhanced-radar....ther&traveler=0

montreal-est Généralement dégagé -20.1c 3:53 am montreal-east Mainly clear -20.1c 3:53 am

montreal-est Généralement dégagé -13.6c 9:02 pm montreal -east Mainly Clear -13.6c 9:02 pm

montreal-est neige faible -4.1c Températures à la baisse 4:52 pm montreal-east light snow -4.1c Temperature falling 4:52 pm http://www.accuweather.com/enhanced-radar....ther&traveler=0

montreal-est Nuageux avec éclaircies -3.3c 9:44 am montreal-east partly cloudy -3.3c 9:44 am